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Welcome to the Law360 Pro Say podcast

Pro Say is a weekly podcast from Law360, bringing you a quick recap of both the biggest stories and the hidden gems from the world of law. In each episode, hosts Amber McKinney, Bill Donahue and Alex Lawson are joined by expert guests to bring you inside the newsroom and break down the stories that had us talking.
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Saturday, November 10, 2018

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Ep. 79: Sessions Adjourned

President Trump fired Attorney General Jeff Sessions the day after the midterm elections, replacing him with a loyalist named Matthew Whitaker. At the end of a wild week, we’re talking about Sessions’ firing, about Whitaker’s controversial appointment, and about what it all means for Robert Mueller. Also this week, we talk about big votes on criminal justice and marijuana and interview a BigLaw attorney about her firm’s efforts to help voters on Election Day.

Full Show (Runtime: 40:30) Top News: The Sessions firing and early objections to his replacement (21:40) Top News: The poll results on big ballot initiatives (12:25) Offbeat: Drinker Biddle helps voters on election day (6:20)

Saturday, November 3, 2018

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Ep. 78: Will RICO Suits Harsh The Weed Industry’s Mellow?

The tension between state and federal cannabis laws was on display this week in Colorado, where a marijuana farm beat accusations that their otherwise legal business amounted to federal racketeering. To break down the case’s big implications for a budding industry, we’re joined by Denver court reporter Diana Novak Jones. Also this week, we discuss Pittsburgh’s failed effort to hide the details of its bid for a new Amazon headquarters; and a litigious New York attorney who couldn’t shake a judge’s “copyright troll” label.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:00) Top News: Pittsburgh can’t keep its Amazon HQ bid secret (8:43) Top News: Litigious attorney gets stuck with “copyright troll” label (8:37) Main Story: Colorado pot grower beats federal RICO suit (12:30)

Saturday, October 27, 2018

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Ep. 77: BigLaw Quiet About Ties To Saudi Arabia

The murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi at the hands of the Saudi Arabian government has put U.S.commercial ties with the Middle Eastern nation under the microscope, and BigLaw is no exception. We’re joined by D.C. reporter Jimmy Hoover to talk about which firms have ties to the Saudis, the one firm that has already backed away, and the many others that have remained silent. Also this week, we discuss New York’s suit claiming Exxon Mobil defrauded shareholders by downplaying climate change; the fight over a citizenship question on the 2020 U.S. census; and an attorney who claims too much wine led him to share insider stock tips.

Full Show (Runtime: 36:23) Top News: Exxon feels heat after climate change fraud suit (9:52) Top News: High court weighs in on census question fight (8:48) Main Story: BigLaw firms quiet about Saudi Arabia ties (11:00) Offbeat: Atty blames stock tip slip on too much wine (6:23)

Saturday, October 20, 2018

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Ep. 76: Fla. Gov. Can’t Pick 3 New Justices On His Last Day

The Florida Supreme Court ruled this week that Gov. Rick Scott couldn’t pick three new high court justices in his final hours in office, capping off a strange judicial showdown in the Sunshine State. Carolina Bolado, our senior Florida reporter, joins us on the show this week to break it all down. Also this week, we’ll talk about a stinging dissent about criminal sentencing from Sonia Sotomayor; a case that’s been dubbed “The Biggest Class Action In History”; and more chaotic impeachment developments in the West Virginia Supreme Court.

Full Show (Runtime: 34:08) Top News: 2 Justices balk at skipping sentencing guidelines cases (8:12) Top News: Qualcomm fights cert. of 'Biggest Class Action In History' (6:32) Main Story: No last minute judicial appointments for Rick Scott (12:35) Offbeat: More WV Supreme Court impeachment drama (6:53)

Saturday, October 13, 2018

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Ep. 75: The Supreme Court Loves Arbitration

The Supreme Court is once again set to weigh in on the important question of arbitration agreements, and what the justices decide in two big cases could have an impact on millions of workers across many industries. To unpack the new cases and what’s at stake in the term ahead, we’ll be joined by Law360 senior employment reporter Vin Gurrieri. Also on this week’s show, an accusation that a federal judge should have recused herself from a major case because she was in talks to join Cravath; a new case claiming that NYU and Harvard discriminate against white men; and an epic smackdown from an appellate judge who said a case against Jay-Z had “a real stench to it.”

Full Show (Runtime: 30:49) Top News: An argument over recusal after Fed. Judge joins Cravath (10:55) Top News: NYU, Harvard accused of bias against white men (4:45) Main Story: A pair of high court arbitration cases with big employment stakes (9:30) Offbeat: A case against Jay-Z with “a real stench” (5:34)

Saturday, October 6, 2018

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Ep. 74: SUPREME COURT SPECIAL - Ex-Solicitor General Highlights Cases You Should Watch

The U.S. Supreme Court’s fall term has officially kicked off, and we’re breaking it all down on this week’s episode with former acting U.S. Solicitor General Ian Gershengorn, now the head of Jenner & Block’s appellate practice. We’ll talk about some of the most important cases on the docket, including one dealing with double jeopardy that could affect Robert Mueller’s investigation into President Donald Trump; another accusing Apple of monopolizing the market for iPhone apps; and a third that could have a big impact on federal regulations. Ian will also give us some insight into what petitions the court could grant this term.

Full Show: Ian Gershengorn previews the Supreme Court term (Runtime: 33:21)

Saturday, September 29, 2018

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Ep. 73: Kavanaugh Showdown On Capitol Hill

All eyes were on Capitol Hill on Thursday for a pivotal hearing on Dr. Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations of sexual assault against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Ford described fearing for her life; Kavanaugh angrily denied the allegations. On this week’s show, we break down the whole chaotic week of news, including Thursday’s bombshell hearing and the latest developments from Friday. Plus, our reporter Michael Macagnone, who was in the room for the hearing, will join the show to give us the inside story.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:50) Top News: Allegations against Brett Kavanaugh take center stage (20:25) Main Story: Inside the Kavanaugh-Ford Senate hearing (13:20)

Saturday, September 22, 2018

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Ep. 72: Manafort Plea Deal Spells Trouble for Skadden

Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP is again facing scrutiny over its links to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. The elite BigLaw firm has long denied any wrongdoing over its involvement in his shady lobbying for pro-Russian figures, but the plea deal Manafort struck with prosecutors last week seemed to contradict some of those claims. Law360 senior reporter Andrew Strickler, who has been following the Skadden story for months, joins us to break it all down. Also on this week's show, a recap of the sexual assault allegations against Brett Kavanaugh; a disturbing gender discrimination case leveled against the firm of Manatt Phelps; and Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s entertaining chat with children at the Brooklyn Public Library.

Full Show (Runtime: 35:10) Top News: Scandal hits Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination (12:42) Top News: The disturbing sexual bias claims against Manatt Phelps (6:20) Main Story: Manafort plea deal spells trouble for Skadden (10:35) Offbeat: Justice Sotomayor’s fun chat with kids in Brooklyn (5:30)

Saturday, September 15, 2018

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Ep. 71: EMMYS EXTRAVAGANZA - The Best In Legal Television

In honor of the Emmy Awards, we’re presenting our own honors to celebrate achievements in television that focuses on the law. Join us as we hand out awards for key legal moments from “Game of Thrones,” “The Office,” “Breaking Bad” and many more, plus a Lifetime Achievement Award for a certain long-running legal drama. Tune in.

Full Show (Runtime: 39:05)

Saturday, September 8, 2018

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Ep. 70: Kavanaugh Takes On Capitol Hill

Congress held confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh this week that included drama over documents, protests, and plenty of talk about big issues like abortion and gun control. D.C. reporter Michael Macagnone who was on the scene for the hearings comes on the show to give us an inside look at the action. Also this week, we discuss State Farm’s $250M settlement in a case over buying a judge; Facebook and Twitter execs weighing in on “fake news” and facing a suit over allegedly suppressing conservative content; and a dine-and-dash dater who may have to pick up the tab for some legal bills.

Full Show (Runtime: 41:35) Top News: State Farm to pay $250M to settle rigged-judge trial (9:37) Top News: Tech giants face blowback over alleged suppression of conservative news (15:08) Main Story: Kavanaugh in the hot seat on Capitol Hill (11:40) Offbeat: Dine-and-dash scheme could land dater in jail (4:50)

Saturday, September 1, 2018

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Ep. 69: Did State Farm Buy Itself A Judge?

State Farm faces a trial this week over allegedly spending millions of dollars to get a justice elected to the Illinois Supreme Court who later overturned a billion dollar verdict against the insurance giant. Law360 trials reporter Cara Salvatore will be in the courtroom, but first she stops by the Pro Say studio to give us all the details. Also this week, we discuss Trump getting more judges approved but facing the loss of the architect of his judicial strategy; the Second Circuit weighing in on the foreign reach of U.S. bribery laws; and the outlandish opinions issued by one Texas judge.

Full Show (Runtime: 36:58) Top News: Trump continues to pack the federal courts (10:29) Top News: Second Circuit limits reach of foreign bribery law (8:01) Main Story: State Farm stands trial for backing favorable judge (10:20) Offbeat: A Texas judge and his outlandish opinions (7:58)

Saturday, August 25, 2018

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Ep. 68: What The Cohen & Manafort News Means For Trump

Within minutes on Tuesday two of President Trump’s closest confidants -- his former attorney Michael Cohen and the one-time chairman of his presidential campaign Paul Manafort -- became felons. What do you need to know to understand Cohen’s plea agreement and Manafort’s conviction? This week we’re joined by white collar ace and former federal prosecutor Seth Waxman to take a deeper look at what these watershed developments mean for the Trump administration.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:35) Top News: The nuts & bolts of Cohen & Manafort sagas (10:40) Main Story: Ex-prosecutor explains what the Cohen & Manafort news means for Trump (8:35) Offbeat: Congressman Duncan Hunter indicted for rampant misuse of campaign funds (11:20)

Friday, August 17, 2018

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Ep. 67: Disabled Attorneys Fight For A Place In The Law

For disabled attorneys, the legal profession can be a lonely place. In the hypercompetitive pursuit of clients and partnership slots, they may feel pressure to downplay their disability out of fear of facing bias and stigma. And while many law firms offer affinity groups for female, minority and LGBTQ attorneys, fewer mention disabilities in their diversity efforts. On this week’s show, we dive into these challenges with reporters Brandon Lowrey and Erin Coe, who each reported recently on disabled attorneys’ fight for their place in the law. A transcript of this week’s episode is available here.

Full Show (Runtime: 35:17) Top News: The strange saga of Paul Manafort’s fraud trial (8:25) Main Story: Disabled attorneys fight for space in the law (16:35) Main Story: The challenges of “invisible” disabilities like mental illness (9:52)

Saturday, August 11, 2018

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Ep. 66: Will West Virginia Impeach Its Entire Supreme Court?

West Virginia lawmakers this week took the unprecedented step of launching impeachment proceedings against the entire state Supreme Court, citing more than $3 million the justices spent on office renovations along with other allegations of negligence and corruption. Host Amber McKinney breaks down the judicial chaos unfolding in her home state, while Bill and Alex discuss the insider trading indictment of U.S. Representative Chris Collins, and a judge’s refusal to let Cadwalader call experts to the stand during an upcoming legal malpractice trial.

Full Show (Runtime: 34:11) Top News: Congressman indicted for insider trading (9:06) Top News: Cadwalader denied experts at malpractice trial (5:54) Main Story: Entire West Virginia Supreme Court could be impeached (12:30) Offbeat: Posner’s pro se litigant loses conspiracy suit (6:41)

Saturday, August 4, 2018

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Ep. 65: Investing 101 -- How NYU Beat Retirement Fund Mismanagement Claims

Universities across the country are facing a flurry of lawsuits that claim they cost workers millions by mismanaging retirement portfolios, but this week, in the first case to reach trial, NYU beat those allegations in court. Law360 senior benefits reporter Emily Brill joins the show to break down how exactly they did it. Also on this week's show, we discuss a BigLaw attorney who suggested his opponent's pregnancy was a delay tactic; and a California high court ruling that Starbucks must actually pay its workers for all the time they work.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:47) Top News: BigLaw attorney calls pregnancy a delay tactic (13:26) Top News: Starbucks must actually pay its workers (4:34) Main Story: How NYU beat retirement fund mismanagement claims (9:40) Offbeat: A “moron” client, and how to pronounce gerrymandering (6:07)

Saturday, July 28, 2018

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Ep. 64: The Murky Ethics Of The Trump-Cohen Tapes

Michael Cohen didn’t commit a crime under New York law when he secretly recorded conversations with now-President Donald Trump, but the practice strongly suggests a toxic attorney-client relationship and could amount to an ethics breach. Law360’s senior legal ethics reporter provides insight on this week’s show, which also includes a “Trade Law with A-Law” segment and touches on the drugmaker who lost its bid to shield patents using Native American tribal immunity.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:51) Top News: Drugmaker’s novel bid to use tribal immunity fails at Fed. Circ. (6:08) Top News: Trade Law with A-Law (8:27) Main Story: The legal ethics of Cohen’s secret Trump tapes (11:30) Offbeat: Canadian judge writes ruling in comic sans (3:46)

Saturday, July 21, 2018

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Ep. 63: Why MGM Sued Las Vegas Mass Shooting Victims

Our main story this week is an unusual lawsuit filed by MGM Resorts against the victims of last year’s mass shooting in Las Vegas -- and the public relations nightmare that followed. We’ll also break down a jury’s billion-dollar verdict against Johnson & Johnson over talcum powder; a judge’s rejection of a labor law settlement for McDonald’s; and a bizarre freedom of the press story that saw a judge deleting portions of the Los Angeles Times.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:20) Story 1: MGM sues Vegas shooting victims (8:10) Story 2: J&J’s eye-popping billion-dollar talcum powder verdict (6:45) Story 3: Judge won’t OK McDonald’s joint-employer labor settlement (5:48) Story 4: LA Times prevails in censorship saga (8:17)

Saturday, July 14, 2018

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Ep. 62: Who Is Brett Kavanaugh?

We’re talking all things Brett Kavanaugh, the 53-year-old judge who President Donald Trump selected this week to replace Justice Anthony Kennedy on the U.S. Supreme Court. The political battle lines are already forming in Washington D.C, but who is the man himself? With help from Law360 high court reporter Jimmy Hoover, we'll unpack it all — from Kavanaugh's resume, to his biggest rulings, to his writing style and judicial philosophy.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:30) Top News: Unpacking Kavanaugh’s background, biggest rulings (21:00) Main Story: Kavanaugh’s judicial philosophy & the outlook in the Senate (12:20)

Saturday, July 7, 2018

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Ep. 61: SUPREME COURT SPECIAL - Cases, Kennedy & Key Stats

This week's Pro Say is our Supreme Court special, where we step back and take a look at the lessons from the 2017 term. This term the justices considered some blockbuster cases, but the outcomes weren't exactly what many court watchers expected. Willy Jay, co-chair of Goodwin Procter's appellate litigation practice comes on the show to break down the action, including what to expect now that Justice Anthony Kennedy has retired. Also this week, we talk about some of the term’s sharpest dissents, plus all the key stats you need to know to understand the impact of the high court's actions this year.

Full Show (Runtime: 34:12) Top News: Making sense of the term by the numbers (13:15) Main Story: Top term takeaways with Goodwin’s Willy Jay (16:30) Offbeat: The High Court’s lighthearted moments (4:27)

Saturday, June 30, 2018

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Ep. 60: The SCOTUS Term’s Dizzying Final Week

Justice Anthony Kennedy’s retirement from the U.S. Supreme Court dominated the headlines, but the final week of the term also saw the court uphold President Donald Trump’s travel ban and deal a significant blow to organized labor. Hawaii Lieutenant Governor Doug Chin joins us to discuss his state’s failed challenge of the president’s controversial ban, and Law360 employment reporter Vin Gurrieri stops by to explain the justices’ union opinion. Also in this week’s packed show, we’ll discuss Justice Kennedy’s announcement, a few other major SCOTUS rulings, and just how old you can be before one firm forces you to retire.

Full Show (Runtime: 35:38) Top News: Justice Kennedy retires, plus some major SCOTUS rulings (6:25) Main Story: High Court’s blow to organized labor (12:00) Main Story: Supreme Court upholds Trump’s travel ban (13:25) Offbeat: One firm forces retirement . . . at 100 (3:33)

Saturday, June 23, 2018

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Ep. 59: Trump’s Family Separation Scandal, Explained

Immigrant families have been separated by the thousands along the Southern border under a Trump administration zero-tolerance policy. After intense outcry, President Trump issued an Executive Order, but will that actually fix anything? Nicole Narea, senior immigration reporter, joins us to explain the complex legal dynamics at play. Also this week, we discuss two Supreme Court rulings: one that could upend how states collect sales tax from online retailers, and another that punted on the issue of partisan gerrymandering. And finally, we talk about a West Virginia Supreme Court Justice who is in a mountain of trouble.

Full Show (Runtime: 36:09) Top News: Supreme Court opens doors to state sales tax for internet retailers (11:05) Top News: High Court punts on political gerrymandering cases (7:30) Main Story: Understanding the fallout from Trump’s family separation policy (11:10) Offbeat: Sitting WV Supreme Court Justice in hot water for fraud (6:14)

Saturday, June 16, 2018

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Ep. 58: The Overwhelming Whiteness Of BigLaw

For years, law firms have had programs aimed at increasing diversity in their attorney ranks. But we’ve got some bad news: It’s not working. Today we’re joined by senior reporter Natalie Rodriguez, who will tell us about the results of our latest survey of diversity at law firms, and what experts say are the things that could actually move the needle on this issue. Also this week, we talk about a federal court approving the blockbuster $85 million merger of AT&T and Time Warner; the New York Attorney General suing Trump for allegedly using his charity foundation as a “personal checkbook”; and a judge calling out the “egregious behavior” of a New York City real estate developer who demolished the famed graffiti space 5Pointz.

Full Show (Runtime: 36:38) Top News: Court clears AT&T, Time Warner merger (9:50) Top News: NY AG suit says Trump used foundation as personal checkbook (9:10) Main Story: What will move the needle on law firm diversity? (11:45) Offbeat: Judge slams developer in bid for new trial over graffiti destruction (5:38)

Saturday, June 9, 2018

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Ep. 57: Paul Manafort And The Obscure Law That Snagged Him

Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election made headlines a few times this week, so we’re devoting the entire show to breaking it all down. Michael Macagnone, senior Washington DC reporter, joins us to explain the obscure lobbying law that ensnared former Trump campaign director Paul Manafort — and how it’s keeping K Street and BigLaw up at night. We also talk about new accusations that Manfort engaged in witness tampering, as well as President Trump’s claim that he can pardon himself.

Full Show (Runtime: 27:53) Top News: Can President Trump really pardon himself? (9:54) Top News: Mueller says Manafort attempted witness tampering (5:21) Main Story: Everything you need to know about the lobbying law that ensnared Manafort (12:38)

Sunday, June 3, 2018

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Ep. 56: Quinn Emanuel Plays Hardball With Departing Partners

BigLaw firm Quinn Emanuel is facing allegations it used ethically-dubious tactics against high-profile partners who left to form a new firm, enforcing an obscure contract provision to dissuade them from poaching associates. To break it all down, we’re joined by senior legal industry reporter Sam Reisman. Also this week, we discuss efforts by San Francisco and Oakland to hold oil giants responsible for the impact of climate change; Apple’s $539 million verdict against Samsung; and how courtroom cackles during oral arguments led to a second chance.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:56) Top News: Big oil, California cities face off over global warming liability (10:14) Top News: Design patent damages still murky after $539M Apple verdict (4:56) Main Story: Quinn Emanuel fight with Ex-Partners raises ethics questions (10:00) Offbeat: Courtroom cackles get company a redo at the Federal Circuit (4:41)

Saturday, May 26, 2018

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Ep. 55: Why Are All The Partners STILL Men?

Are you looking around your firm and still seeing a lot of men in leadership? This week we’re discussing Law360’s annual Glass Ceiling Report, which, like last year, found that women are still heavily underrepresented at the country’s law firms, especially in leadership roles. Joining us to discuss the report is senior reporter Natalie Rodriguez, who sat down with female firm leaders to hear their stories. Then, attorney Kerrie Campbell joins us to talk about the lawsuit she filed against Chadbourne & Parke over what she described as a “boys’ club” culture that led it to pay women less than men.

Full Show (Runtime: 35:38) Main Story Part 1: Progress for women in the law remains incremental at best (13:10) Main Story Part 2: Kerrie Campbell discusses what her case means for women in the law (18:33)

Saturday, May 19, 2018

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Ep. 54: Sports Betting & The Supreme Court - What You Need To Know

The U.S. Supreme Court this week struck down federal restrictions on sports gambling, opening the door for states to legalize betting. Senior sports reporter Zach Zagger joins the show to break down the decision and preview the crazy months ahead. Also this week, we discuss the latest battle in Apple and Samsung’s smartphone patent war; a major effort by law schools to demand answers from BigLaw about the use of nondisclosure agreements; and a woman who took a toilet tumble at the White House Easter egg roll.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:22) Top News: Apple says Samsung owes over $1B for ripping off its patents (8:56) Top News: 50 law schools ask recruiting firms if they require NDAs (5:29) Main Story: Supreme Court blows the door to sports betting wide open (11:10) Offbeat: Torts 101 - woman sues gov’t after toilet tumble (5:37)

Sunday, May 13, 2018

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Ep. 53: Don’t Lie About Paying Expert Witnesses. Trust Us.

It’s no secret that the expert witnesses who testify during high-stake trials are usually compensated for their efforts, so why did a lawyer in a huge trial against Johnson & Johnson lie by saying he hadn’t paid the doctors he put on the stand? This week we’re joined by legal ethics reporter Andrew Strickler to unpack the incident, which led an appeals court this month to toss out a $150 million verdict. Also this week, we talk about New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman stepping down after accusations of physical abuse; a judge ordering Jay-Z to give testimony in a securities case; and Dr. Dre’s attempt to block an actual doctor from registering a trademark for “Dr. Drai.”

Full Show (Runtime: 32:26) Top News: Unpacking NY AG Schneiderman’s resignation over abuse allegations (9:53) Top News: Jay-Z must meet with SEC to discuss Rocawear sale fallout (5:07) Main Story: Hidden trial expert payment sinks $150M verdict (11:57) Offbeat: Dr. Dre tries, fails to block OB-GYN's 'Dr. Drai' trademark (5:21)

Saturday, May 5, 2018

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Ep. 52: ‘Wild, Wild Country’ And The Lawyer Who Lived It

On this week’s show we’re joined by Robert Weaver, one of the prosecutors featured in Netflix’s binge-worthy docuseries “Wild, Wild Country.” Bob gives us the inside story of how members of a free-love cult were eventually charged with immigration fraud, bioterrorism, wiretapping, and attempted assassination. Also this week, we discuss a $100 million pregnancy bias lawsuit against Morrison & Foerster; and a California ruling that will make it easier for workers in the gig economy to be classified as employees.

Full Show (Runtime: 35:32) Top News: MoFo slapped with $100M pregnancy bias suit (6:44) Top News: Calif. justices make it harder to classify workers as independent contractors (4:51) Main Story: Everything you want to know about the cases against the Rajneeshee (23:47)

Saturday, April 28, 2018

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Ep. 51: Travel Ban, Patents and Chevron, Oh My!

Big things have been happening at the Supreme Court this week, so we’re spending the entire show breaking down the developments. We dive in to the hot-button moments from the oral argument over President Trump’s immigration travel ban, discuss a beef between Justices Gorsuch and Breyer over the always-controversial Chevron deference, and senior reporters Ryan Davis and Matt Bultman come on the show to explain two important patent rulings.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:14) Top News: Key moments from the travel ban oral arguments (10:43) Top News: Gorsuch and Breyer duke it out over Chevron deference (6:37) Main Story: High Court upholds system for challenging patents, but orders big changes (12:54)

Saturday, April 21, 2018

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Ep. 50: The Michael Cohen Saga, Explained

From a dawn raid by the FBI to a shocking reveal about Sean Hannity, the past two weeks have seen a lot of news about Michael Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer. To get you caught up, we're digging into the saga: A recap of all the major events, a look at attorney-client privilege, and a dive into Cohen's connection to a major BigLaw firm. Also this week, a Supreme Court case that could have a huge impact on how online retailers like Amazon pay sales tax; and a case that could turn a courtroom in a Broadway theater.

Full Show (Runtime: 32:34) Top News: What you may have missed about the FBI search of President Trump’s lawyer (15:10) Main Story: Supreme Court weighs tax case that could overhaul online sales practices (12:35) Offbeat: Broadway bigwig offers to perform “To Kill a Mockingbird” in court (4:34)

Saturday, April 14, 2018

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Ep. 49: SPECIAL GUEST - Former DHS Chief Jeh Johnson On Cyber Threats At Home And Abroad

Whether it's Russian meddling, the Equifax breach or Facebook's user-data scandal, every day seems to bring a new cyber security crisis. What can Washington do to address these threats? What about private businesses? This week we’re joined by a guest who knows the cyberthreat landscape well, Secretary Jeh Johnson, who led the Department of Homeland Security during the Obama administration. Also this week, we talk about a Ninth Circuit ruling that says employers can’t rely on salary history to justify paying women less than men.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:32) Top News: Salary history can't shield equal pay claims, 9th Circ. says (9:39) Main Story: Former DHS Chief Jeh Johnson Talks Cybersecurity (23:54)

Monday, April 9, 2018

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Ep. 48: Should College Athletes Be Paid?

On the heels of the billion dollar March Madness tournament, we’re taking up a big question this week: Should college athletes be paid? Senior sports reporter Zach Zagger comes on the show to talk about a major case headed to trial that may squarely answer that question. Also this week, we talk about a Supreme Court ruling on overtime pay; a judge saying courts improperly used the fees from PACER; and an Iowa man who was threatened with lawsuits when he said his town smelled like “rancid dog food.”

Full Show (Runtime: 28:46) Top News: High Court takes broader view of FLSA overtime exemptions (8:25) Top News: Courts improperly spent $200M in PACER fees (6:17) Main Story: NCAA heads to trial over whether student athletes should be paid (9:55) Offbeat: This town stinks, and you can’t sue me for saying so (5:06)

Monday, April 2, 2018

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Ep. 47: Is Time Up For BigLaw Arbitration Agreements?

BigLaw firm Munger Tolles found itself in hot water this week after word leaked that it was forcing summer associates to sign mandatory arbitration agreements that would keep harassment lawsuits out of court. Munger quickly dropped the agreements, and two more major firms soon did the same. Will more follow? Was this BigLaw’s first #MeToo moment? Senior reporter Natalie Rodriguez joins us to discuss. Also this week, we talk about Oracle’s billion-dollar copyright case against Google; associates being held in contempt for following partners’ orders; and a famous drummer-turned-doctor who rushed to the aid of a juror in cardiac arrest during his own malpractice trial.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:06) Top News: Fed. Circ. revives billion-dollar Oracle-Google copyright case (8:54) Top News: Contempt order puts associates between a rock and a hard place (6:13) Main Story: Munger Tolles arbitration dust-up may spark BigLaw changes (9:20) Offbeat: Med-mal mistrial after ex-drummer of The Offspring gives juror CPR (5:41)

Monday, March 26, 2018

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Ep. 46: The Fall Of Latham's Chair - The Inside Story

Latham & Watkins, one of the most prestigious law firms in the world, saw chairman Bill Voge resign this week after revelations that he’d engaged in a pattern of reckless behavior. But how did the saga unfold, and how did it become public? This week we’re joined by senior reporter Sam Reisman, who broke the Voge story with his exclusive reporting. Also this week, we discuss a controversial copyright ruling over the song “Blurred Lines”; the legal blowback Facebook will face over the Cambridge Analytica scandal; and Lindsay Lohan’s new gig for a lawyer referral site.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:40) Top News: “Blurred Lines” ruling gives no answer to when inspiration turns to infringement (9:26) Top News: Facebook can’t avoid hot water by denying data mining was “breach” (5:19) Main Story: Inside the story of Latham chairman’s resignation (10:08) Offbeat: Need a lawyer? Lindsay Lohan can help you find one (4:47)

Monday, March 19, 2018

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Ep. 45: A New Legal Weapon In The #MeToo Battle

The #MeToo and #TimesUp movements have gained significant traction this year, but lawsuits against alleged abusers have not always addressed the institutions that enabled the abuse. This week we’re joined by Chicago court reporter Diana Novak Jones who tells us about a case using a novel legal approach to tackle that problem. Also this week, we discuss the White House blocking a proposed $117 billion takeover of chipmaker Qualcomm by a foreign company; the largest agricultural litigation settlement in U.S. history; and a judge who used Shakespeare to write a spirited ruling in a dispute over wine.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:06) Top News: Trump cites national security to block foreign buy of Qualcomm (9:27) Top News: Syngenta to pay out $1.5B to corn farmers (6:39) Main Story: Consumer class could place new liability on sex abuse enablers (9:45) Offbeat: Yea verily, we present a Shakespearean riff on a wine dispute (5:00)

Monday, March 12, 2018

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Ep. 44: Can Trump Turn The Courts Red?

This week we’re talking about the Trump Administration’s efforts to reshape the judicial branch, both how things have panned out so far and what to expect going forward. We’re joined by two of our senior reporters -- Ed Beeson to talk us through some forces that could slow down Trump’s progress, and Jimmy Hoover to talk about one district that has been overlooked. Also this week, we discuss Trump’s controversial trade moves, and unpack “inclusion riders ” that were put in the spotlight by Frances McDormand’s Oscar speech.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:44) Top News: Trump inks "flexible" steel, aluminum tariff order (10:28) Top News: Oscars shine spotlight on inclusion riders (5:27) Main Story Part 1: How far right can the President pull the courts? (6:15) Main Story Part 2: A court left behind in Trump’s push to fill the bench (7:14)

Monday, March 5, 2018

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Ep. 43: OSCAR SPECIAL - The Best In Legal Movies

On this week’s Pro Say we present the first annual Academy Lawards, a celebration of achievements in cinema focusing on the law. Join us as we hand out awards for the Best Argument in film and the Most Disparaging Portrayal of a Lawyer. Also this week, we touch down on a Second Circuit ruling that discrimination against gay employees is barred under federal law.

Full Show (Runtime: 34:34) Top News: 2nd Circ. deepens circuit split over whether anti-gay bias is sex discrimination (4:30) Main Story: The ProSies, awards for achievement in legal cinema (29:54)

Monday, February 26, 2018

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Ep. 42: Microsoft's Supreme Court Battle For Digital Privacy

The Supreme Court is poised to answer a digital privacy question with huge implications: Can U.S. prosecutors force Microsoft to turn over personal email data that's stored on overseas servers? With arguments set for Tuesday, Microsoft head of litigation David Howard comes on the show to walk us through his company's case. Also this week, we discuss a former BigLaw attorney who pleaded guilty to lying to Robert Mueller’s investigators; a Supreme Court ruling that narrowed protections for corporate whistleblowers; and a legal beef over Dunkin’ Donuts Angus steak sandwiches.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:33) Top News: Ex-Skadden attorney snared by Mueller has ties to Russia, Ukraine (8:26) Top News: Supreme Court narrows the definition of whistleblower (6:04) Main Story: Microsoft attorney talks high court overseas data case (13:27) Offbeat: Dunkin’ Donuts consumers ask: Where’s the steak? (5:18)

Monday, February 19, 2018

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Ep. 41: What Does ‘Partner’ Even Mean?

Law firms are full of people with the title “partner,” but what exactly does that mean? After years of change, the title ain’t always what it used to be. Senior reporter Andrew Strickler comes on the show this week to talk about “partners,” particularly as it relates to the wave of gender bias suits filed against BigLaw firms. Also this week, we discuss a big ruling on the destruction of New York City graffiti space “5Pointz”; a new lawsuit claiming bar prep giant Barbri colluded with top law schools to crush competitors; and Taylor Swift’s efforts to shake off a lawsuit alleging she stole lyrics for some of her songs.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:02) Top News: Judge slams destruction of NYC “graffiti mecca” (9:41) Top News: Bar prep company sues over Barbri’s chokehold on the market (5:19) Main Story: Blurry BigLaw definition of partner may lead to unexpected problems (11:55) Offbeat: Taylor Swift looks to shake off stolen lyrics suit (5:48)

Monday, February 12, 2018

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Ep. 40: Kozinski’s Retirement Won’t Quiet The Law’s #MeToo Push

Ninth Circuit Judge Alex Kozinski was under investigation for sexually harassing clerks. Amid the scandal the judge retired, and now the probe has been called off. Senior reporter Natalie Rodriguez comes on the show to talk about how the end of the investigation highlights a need for significant reforms to how the judicial branch handles sexual harassment. Also this week, we discuss looming changes that could cause headaches for foreign companies looking to invest in the U.S., an FBI sting that busted a judge for accepting bribes, and Chuck Norris filing a lawsuit that is the legal equivalent of a roundhouse kick to the face.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:21) Top News: CFIUS poised to get broader mandate (8:50) Top News: Texas judge gets busted for taking bribes for rulings (5:20) Main Story: End of Kozinski investigation highlights need for judicial reforms (9:20) Offbeat: Chuck Norris doesn’t get sued. He sues you. (6:36)

Monday, February 5, 2018

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Ep. 39: The REAL Super Bowl - Google v. Uber

Google and Uber, two Silicon Valley behemoths, are set to square off next week in a high stakes trial that could determine the future of self-driving cars. Senior intellectual property reporter and Pro Say co-host Bill Donahue walks us through what we need to know about the billion-dollar trial. Also this week, we discuss an appeals court “swiping left” over age discrimination on the dating app Tinder; a ruling on the embattled Consumer Financial Protection Bureau; and the misdeeds that finally landed rapper DMX behind bars.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:37) Top News: Tinder discriminated against daters over 30 (7:15) Top News: Court says CFPB structure, independence is constitutional (6:41) Main Story: Gearing up for the Google-Uber self-driving car trade secrets trial (12:10) Offbeat: DMX lands in jail ahead of tax evasion sentencing (4:15)

Monday, January 29, 2018

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Ep. 38: The Decline And Fall Of Sedgwick LLP

It’s not every day that a BigLaw firm goes under, but that’s just what happened to legal stalwart Sedgwick LLP, which formally closed shop last week. What went wrong? Our business of law reporter Sam Reisman, who spent months covering the firm’s demise, comes on the show to give us the scoop. Also this week, we discuss how a court ruling forced Starbucks to keep stores open during the “Retail Apocalypse,” a Fourth Circuit decision that slammed “sham” arbitration clauses foisted on strippers, and an inside look at the New York City Bar Association's musical roast of Preet Bharara.

Full Show (Runtime: 34:09) Top News: Starbucks case may give landlords legal roadmap to stop closures (8:59) Top News: Strip club can’t enforce “sham” arbitration pacts (4:41) Main Story: A post mortem on the fall of Sedgwick LLP (11:05) Offbeat: Lawyers sendup Preet Bharara in song (9:04)

Monday, January 22, 2018

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Ep. 37: Lawyer Sold You Out? Tell It To The Justices

Can your lawyer go against your wishes if they think it’s in your best interest? That’s the tricky question the Supreme Court weighed this week in a case where a lawyer admitted his client committed murder in a failed effort to spare him the death penalty. DC reporter Chuck Stanley joins us to talk about the oral arguments in the case. Also on this week’s show, we discuss legal challenges to the rollback of net neutrality; we drop by cert grant corner to talk about two cases now pending before the Supreme Court; and we touch down on a former Jersey Shore star who changed his signature GTL to gym, tax evasion, laundry.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:06) Top News: Suits filed challenging the rollback of net neutrality (8:53) Top News: Cert Grant Corner features big tax and patent cases (7:17) Main Story: High Court to decide if a lawyer can sell out his client (9:35) Offbeat: The Jersey Shore’s Situation pleads guilty to tax evasion (5:06)

Monday, January 15, 2018

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Ep. 36: When Do You Ditch A Dangerous Client Like Shkreli?

You've definitely heard about the recent conviction of “pharma bro” Martin Shkreli, but what about Evan Greebel? He was Shkreli's BigLaw attorney, and he was convicted of securities fraud, too. Manhattan courthouse reporter Stewart Bishop comes on the show to break down the case against Greebel -- and how it's a cautionary tale for other lawyers. Also on this week’s show, we discuss a court blocking President Trump’s plan to roll back the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and what Congress might do next; a ruling striking down partisan gerrymandering in North Carolina; and a privacy case over the 5-bite diet.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:14) Top News: DACA rollback halted, Congress still hammering out fix (9:32) Top News: Federal court blocks gerrymandered NC map (6:43) Main Story: Ex-Katten attorney conviction a cautionary BigLaw tale (10:14) Offbeat: Privacy case related to doctor’s 5-bite diet (4:20)

Monday, January 8, 2018

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Ep. 35: In A Post-Facts World, Are Jurors Listening?

What do you do when jurors think they know more than the experts on the witness stand? Senior trials reporter Daniel Siegal joins us to talk about his recent story on modern jurors who are emboldened by too many Google searches and episodes of Law and Order. Also on this week’s show, we discuss Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ move to ramp up enforcement of federal marijuana laws; Paul Manafort’s suit against Special Counsel Robert Mueller; and an insurance company balking at paying a claim because of a machete-wielding shareholder.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:02) Top News: Sessions reverses Obama-era marijuana enforcement policy (10:40) Top News: Manafort sues DOJ, looking to topple special counsel (7:54) Main Story: How modern juries complicate a case (8:55) Offbeat: Director's machete attack may doom insurance claim (5:32)

Monday, December 25, 2017

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Ep. 34: YEAR-END SPECIAL - The Biggest Legal Stories Of 2017

The law was at the center of 2017's biggest news stories. To catch up on the year that was, we're running down the five most important legal stories of the year, including: The wave of sexual misconduct scandals and their connections to the legal community; President Trump's efforts to reshape the courts; the slew of lawsuits aimed at checking the new administration; Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election; and the many lawsuits accusing BigLaw of underpaying women.

Full Show (Runtime: 38:19) Story 1: Sexual harassment wave crashes into the legal profession (6:55) Story 2: Gorsuch’s appointment and other big Trump judicial moves (7:30) Story 3: Courts hear a flurry of cases over White House actions (7:08) Story 4: Mueller probe leads to charges (7:20) Story 5: Women in the law push back against pay bias and lack of advancement (8:54)

Monday, December 18, 2017

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Ep. 33: What’s Next For Net Neutrality And Internet Freedom?

This week the Federal Communications Commission overturned Obama-era net neutrality rules mandating that internet service providers treat all online content equally, handing industry groups a win and offering ISPs leeway to try out “fast” and “slow” lanes for web traffic. Our senior telecom reporter Kelcee Griffis was in person for the vote and joins us from Washington to talk about what happens next. Also on this week’s show, we discuss sexual misconduct claims against a sitting Ninth Circuit judge, the White House giving up on winning Senate approval for two of President Trump’s more controversial judicial nominations, and how to block naughty lawsuits from nice holiday parties.

Full Show (Runtime: 34:40) Top News: 9th Circuit's Kozinski accused of showing staffers porn (10:31) Top News: Two Trump judicial picks dead-end in the Senate (5:19) Main Story: What to expect after the net neutrality rollback (13:00) Offbeat: How to have an office holiday party without legal trouble (4:45)

Monday, December 11, 2017

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Ep. 32: Masterpiece Cakeshop - Gay Rights At The High Court

The Supreme Court heard oral arguments this week in the closely-watched case over whether a Colorado baker had the right to refuse to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple. Law360’s Supreme Court reporter Jimmy Hoover was on the scene, and gives us some insight about the crucial swing vote in the case. Then, senior court reporter Pete Brush joins us to talk about an ongoing trial over a multi-billion dollar scheme to skirt sanctions by swapping Turkish gold for Iranian oil - a case that has given Pete quite the Twitter following in Turkey. And finally, we discuss legal fireworks over Katy Perry’s purchase of a former convent in California.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:18) Main Story 1: High Court weighs refusal to bake cake for gay wedding (13:00) Main Story 2: All of Turkey is watching NY sanctions scheme trial (8:45) Offbeat: Katy Perry wins row over California convent (4:28)

Monday, December 4, 2017

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Ep. 31: Game Of Thrones On The Potomac

What happens when two people lay claim to leadership of the same federal agency? This week, in the surreal case of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, we found out. Senior banking reporter Evan Weinberger joins us to break down the background, the court case, and the infamous bag of donuts. Also on this week’s show, we discuss revelations that delayed the battle between Waymo and Uber on the eve of trial, a sports gambling case the Supreme Court will hear on Monday, and Texas Supreme Court Justice Don Willett saving a man’s life at Chick-Fil-A.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:33) Top News: Bombshell letter delays Uber-Waymo IP Trial (9:43)Top News: High Court case could undo the federal ban on sports gambling (6:07) Main Story: Two leaders lay claim to top post at CFPB (9:20) Offbeat: Texas Supreme Court judge is a real life saver (4:23)

Monday, November 27, 2017

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Ep. 30: HOLIDAY SPECIAL - The Best Of The Weird In Legal News

On this week’s special holiday show, we’re doing something a little different -- taking a look back at our favorite offbeat stories of the year. We revisit a bananas Ninth Circuit oral argument about a monkey who took a selfie; a comedy duo facing legal trouble for pranking a Wisconsin morning show; a copyright suit over a 24-year-old Meat Loaf hit; and every pun you can imagine to describe a lobster poacher who’s on the hook for millions.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:56) Story One: Monkey business over a jungle selfie (9:12) Story Two: Comedy duo in legal hot water after appearance on “Hello Wisconsin” (7:48) Story Three: Meat Loaf would do anything for love, but would he steal a song? (6:00) Story Four: A tail of illegal seafood (5:56)

Monday, November 20, 2017

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Ep. 29: Republicans Go To War With The ABA

Republicans have long grumbled that the ABA has a liberal bias, but the group’s four recent rejections of Trump nominees have pushed things toward open conflict. We’re joined by senior reporter Michael Macagnone to talk us through the growing showdown over the role the ABA plays in picking judges. Also on this week’s show, we discuss a BigLaw leader who resigned from her management post after claiming on Fox News that legitimate victims of sexual harassment are “few and far between”; a mistrial in Senator Bob Menendez’s corruption case; and the unusual things unearthed about Trump federal district judge pick Brett Talley.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:12) Top News: BigLaw attorney loses management post after Fox News comments (6:50) Top News: Menendez corruption trial ends with hung jury (5:30) Main Story: ABA and GOP square off over judicial nominees (11:45) Offbeat: Trump judicial pick is a ghost hunter and horror novelist (6:07)

Monday, November 13, 2017

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Ep. 28: Will Weinstein Spy Hire Put Boies In Ethics Hot Water?

The sexual assault scandal surrounding Hollywood titan Harvey Weinstein expanded this week into BigLaw. It was revealed that Weinstein’s long-time lawyer David Boies played a part in hiring a private spy firm to help Weinstein suppress a New York Times article detailing the harassment allegations, even though the Times was also a client of Boies Schiller. Senior legal ethics reporter Andrew Strickler comes on the show to explain what happened and the ethical implications for the famed litigator. Also on this week’s show, we discuss a provision in the GOP tax plan that could keep law firms on the hook for higher taxes; the legal pushback billionaire Joe Ricketts may face after shuttering local news sites DNAinfo and Gothamist after a union vote; and an appellate court weighing in on whether a judge falling asleep while on the bench merits a new trial.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:48) Top News: Law firms aren’t happy about being left out of GOP tax cuts (7:04)Top News: Legal fallout of shutting down news sites DNAinfo & Gothamist after union vote (7:01) Main Story: Boies in ethics quagmire after Weinstein spy hire (11:47) Offbeat: Judge falls asleep on the bench, but no new trial (4:56)

Monday, November 6, 2017

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Ep. 27: Can Courts Curb The Opioid Crisis?

The opioid epidemic has recently been put in the spotlight by Washington policy makers, but that’s not the only venue where the issue is being tackled. Law360 senior reporter Andrew Westney comes on the show to walk us through a wave of lawsuits filed against drugmakers and retailers over their alleged role in fueling the crisis. Also on this week’s show, we discuss special counsel Robert Mueller’s willingness to push back against the attorney-client privilege; a D.C. federal judge blocking the Trump administration’s ban on transgender people serving in the military; and a New Jersey state judge accused of “explosive fits of rage” and “extreme emotional immaturity.”

Full Show (Runtime: 27:16) Top News: A look at Mueller’s aggressive tactics in the Russia probe (6:46) Top News: D.C. federal judge blocks Trump’s transgender military ban (6:00) Main Story: A look at the major cases over opioids (8:59) Offbeat: NJ judge allegedly prone to “explosive fits of rage” (5:31)

Monday, October 30, 2017

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Ep. 26: SPECIAL GUEST - High Court Vet Andy Pincus Talks Big Digital Privacy Cases

The Supreme Court is set to weigh two privacy cases this term that could be game changers, including one about personal cloud data stored overseas and another about search warrants for cell phone location data. Andy Pincus, a partner at Mayer Brown who has argued 27 cases before the high court, joins the show to break down the cases and what impact they could have. Also on this week’s show, we run down a big copyright case over illegal downloading; we offer updates on several stories from previous episodes, including Congress making it harder to sue banks, a $417M Talc cancer verdict, and HSBC traders behaving badly; and we discuss Johnny Depp’s latest legal battle - a suit he’s filed against his own lawyers.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:44) Top News: Can Cox be held liable for illegal music sharing of its subscribers? (7:01) Top News: Hey, what happened with . . . we offer updates on big issues we’re tracking (6:34) Main Story: Andy Pincus talks about privacy cases at the Supreme Court (11:35) Offbeat: Johnny Depp sues his own lawyers (6:09)

Monday, October 23, 2017

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Ep. 25: A Play-By-Play Of The NFL’s Legal Showdowns

The NFL has had no shortage of controversies lately. President Trump has blasted players staging on-field protests of racial injustice and the league has been criticized over its response to allegations of domestic violence perpetrated by players. Senior sports reporter Zach Zagger joins the show to give us an overview of the legal battles that are heating up over these issues. Also on this week’s show, we check in with cert grant corner and two big cases now pending before the Supreme Court; we discuss the conviction of an auto racer and his attorney for a huge payday loan scheme; and we try to avoid being catfished by a scammer that duped some law firms.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:36) Top News: High Court to hear Microsoft privacy case & AmEx merchant rules case (9:51) Top News: Auto racer, attorney guilty of running predatory loan empire (5:12) Main Story: NFL legal action over Kaepernick and Elliott (7:05) Offbeat: Fraudster gets max sentence for conning firms, catfishing (6:28)

Monday, October 16, 2017

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Ep. 24: SPECIAL GUEST - New ABA Head Talks Gender Equality & Better Legal Education

The legal profession is facing some big challenges including stagnation in the advancement of women and legal education that may not be adequately preparing future lawyers. Hilarie Bass, the new president of the American Bar Association, comes on the show to talk about what the ABA is doing to make progress on these fronts. Also on this week’s show, we discuss a lawsuit filed in the wake of the Las Vegas mass shooting over bump stock devices that allow semiautomatic weapons to behave like fully-automatic machine guns, the explosive phone calls between a pair of HSBC traders who allegedly defrauded their client in a $3.5 billion foreign exchange scam, and a copyright suit over a 24-year-old Meat Loaf hit.

Full Show (Runtime: 32:14) Top News: MGM and bump stock seller sued over Las Vegas mass shooting (7:52) Top News: Jury hears recordings of HSBC traders saying “I think we got away with it” (7:38) Main Story: ABA President Hilarie Bass on her plans to improve the profession (11:03) Offbeat: I would do anything for love (but I won’t copy your song) (5:29)

Monday, October 9, 2017

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Ep. 23: Will The Supreme Court End Worker Class Actions?

Can employers force workers to sign away the right to bring class actions, or does that violate federal labor law? That’s the issue the Supreme Court tackled this week, and senior employment reporter Vin Gurrieri joins the show to tell us all about his trip to the oral arguments and how the justices may be leaning. Also on this week’s show, we discuss a BigLaw firm sued by a former client despite winning the company a $42.5 million verdict, we check in on the latest charges over the failed Fyre Fest, and we say goodbye to rock legend Tom Petty with a story about his laid-back approach to legal matters.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:32) Top News: Winston & Strawn wins a $42.5M verdict and still gets sued by its client (6:18) Top News: Manhattan prosecutors beef up charges against one Fyre Fest organizer (4:07) Main Story: High Court tackles class action waivers in employment agreements (12:55) Offbeat: Tom Petty’s chill way of handling copyright disputes (5:09)

Monday, October 2, 2017

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Ep. 22: SUPREME COURT SPECIAL - Ex-Solicitor General Talks Big Cases Ahead

This week's Pro Say is our Supreme Court preview special, where we spend the entire show with a former acting U.S. Solicitor General talking about why the upcoming Supreme Court term could be a blockbuster one. Ian Gershengorn, now the chair of Jenner & Block’s appellate and Supreme Court practice, discusses the term’s most high profile cases, including Trump's immigration travel ban, political gerrymandering, and whether a baker can refuse to make a cake for a same-sex wedding.

Full Show: Ian Gershengorn previews the Supreme Court term (Runtime: 28:29)

Tuesday, September 26, 2017

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PREVIEW: Get Ready For The New Supreme Court Term

Are you ready for the new Supreme Court term? We’ve got an episode of Pro Say coming up that will help you know what to expect and catch up on the cases you should be watching. Check out this preview of our talk with former acting U.S. Solicitor General and current chair of Jenner & Block’s appellate and Supreme Court practice Ian Gershengorn who tells us why the upcoming Supreme Court term could be a blockbuster one. Then, check back on Sept. 29 for our full episode previewing the Supreme Court term. (Runtime: 1:12)

Monday, September 25, 2017

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Ep. 21: How Do You Judge A Federal Judge?

When a federal judge with a lifetime appointment stops playing nice with other judges and won’t fully participate in the work of the court, what can be done? An Ohio federal judge was asked to submit to a mental health evaluation after that exact type of scenario played out recently -- and he wasn’t happy about it. Senior legal ethics reporter Andrew Strickler joins us to talk about the lawsuit that judge has filed and how far court authorities can go to control judges. Also on this week’s show, we discuss pharmaceutical giant Allergan using a creative legal maneuver involving Native Americans to shield drug patents from review, sentencing news related to the fall of law firm Dewey & LeBoeuf, and how the Grinch couldn’t steal fair use.

Full Show (Runtime: 27:44) Top News: Pharma giant Allergan gets creative in shielding its patents from review (7:05) Top News: Criminal sentencing related to the fall of Dewey & LeBoeuf (4:45) Main Story: What can be done when a judge’s conduct becomes a problem? (9:10) Offbeat: Raunchy ‘Grinch’ play is clearly a parody (6:44)

Monday, September 18, 2017

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Ep. 20: Could Equifax Investors Win A Post-Breach Lawsuit?

Legal action by investors in the wake of high-profile data breaches has yielded mixed results in recent years, but the tide could be turning following last week’s news of a hack against consumer credit reporting agency Equifax. Senior securities reporter Carmen Germaine comes on the podcast to walk us through what Equifax may be facing. Also on this week’s show, we discuss a House-passed bill about regulating self-driving cars, the NFL’s legal battle with Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott, and a comedy duo facing legal trouble over their appearance on a Wisconsin morning show.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:58) Top News: What you need to know about the SELF DRIVE Act (7:14) Top News: The NFL and Ezekiel Elliott land in court (6:46) Main Story: Will investors find success suing after the Equifax breach? (9:00) Offbeat: Comedy duo sued after in-character appearance on “Hello Wisconsin” (5:38)

Monday, September 11, 2017

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Ep. 19: DACA Debacle, Plus Bribery, Ponzi Schemes & Steinbeck

The Trump administration recently made the controversial decision to phase out Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, a program that prevents the deportation of unauthorized immigrants brought to the United States as children. Senior immigration reporter Allissa Wickham comes on the show to discuss the aftermath of the rollback, including whether Congress will pass legislation to help these young immigrants and a lawsuit launched by 15 states to try to save DACA. Also on this week’s show, we discuss Hunton & Williams shelling out $34 million to settle allegations it aided a $7 billion Ponzi scheme, the kickoff of Senator Robert Menendez’s bribery trial, and a $13 million jury verdict over classic literature and movie-deal sabotage.

Full Show (Runtime: 32:11) Top News: Hunton & Williams pays $34M related to Ponzi scheme (7:49) Top News: Senator Menendez to claim it wasn’t bribery, just friendship (5:59) Main Story: Will Congress or the courts save DACA? (12:08) Offbeat: Steinbeck heirs duke it out over movie plans (5:52)

Monday, September 4, 2017

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Ep. 18: SPECIAL GUEST - Judge Richard Kopf, On Posner & The State Of The Judiciary

As students head back to school we issue a report card of our own to the judiciary. Nebraska federal judge Richard Kopf joins us to rate the courts as part of his review of Seventh Circuit Judge Richard Posner's new book on the state of the judicial branch. Also on this week’s show, we discuss the lawsuits challenging the Trump administration’s looming ban on transgender individuals serving in military as well as a booted settlement in a case accusing Subway of promising customers footlong sandwiches that were actually undersized.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:39) Top News: Suits pile up against transgender military ban (8:55) Main Story: Nebraska federal judge Richard Kopf reviews Posner's “Federal Judiciary” (15:07) Offbeat: Subway settlement for 11-inch “footlongs” axed by 7th Circ. (5:29)

Monday, August 28, 2017

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Ep. 17: Why Aren’t Law Firms More Diverse?

Law firms have made no real progress over the past year in diversifying their workforce, according to the latest Law360 Diversity Snapshot. To talk about the results of the survey of more than 300 law firms and what some firms are doing to buck the trend, we’re joined by Law360 In Depth reporter Erin Coe. Also on this week’s show, the hosts discuss an attorney who was fired for promoting neo-Nazi heavy metal bands and the legal implications of firing workers with similar ties, the role of science in a whopping $417 million verdict against Johnson & Johnson in a case over the link between baby powder and cancer, and how the legal world reacted to the recent solar eclipse.

Full Show (Runtime: 32:13) Top News: Can you get in legal hot water for firing a Nazi? (9:16) Top News: Science is no salve for J&J as jurors award $417M in talc case (6:35) Main Story: Law firm diversity progress stagnates, according to Law360 study (8:57) Offbeat: A total eclipse of the legal system (7:05)

Monday, August 21, 2017

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Ep. 16: Teamsters Recipe For Burning 'Top Chef'

A two-week trial that saw clashes between union reps and reality television producers wrapped up in Boston this week after a jury acquitted four Teamsters of trying to strong-arm their way on to a production team for the popular cooking show Top Chef. We’re joined by court reporter Brian Amaral, to share some stories from inside the courtroom. Also on this week’s show, the hosts discuss a trial where DirecTV could be on the hook for $4 billion for allegedly misleading customers about subscription fees, a defamation suit against the New York Times brought by a professor who says he was misquoted to make it seem like he defended slavery, and an Illinois lawyer hit with a disciplinary complaint after creating a bogus dating profile for a rival attorney.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:40) Top News: FTC trial alleging DirecTV owes consumers $4B (7:26) Top News: NYT must face a defamation suit over a slavery quote (7:04) Main Story: A look inside the courtroom brawl between the Teamsters and Top Chef (10:15) Offbeat: When a courtroom rival creates a bogus dating account in your name (6:35)

Monday, August 14, 2017

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Ep. 15: What Do You Do When You Think A Worker Is Mentally Ill?

If you’re an employer, how do you react when one of your workers starts exhibiting erratic behavior? Senior employment reporter Braden Campbell joins us to talk about what to do -- and what not to do -- when it comes to mental illness. Also on this week’s show, the hosts discuss a landmark 7th Circuit ruling upholding the first conviction for the market manipulation tactic known as “spoofing,” two copyright cases involving Instagram and Beyonce that could be the next frontiers of fair use, and Levar Burton’s legal woes over childhood favorite Reading Rainbow.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:46) Top News: 7th Circ. upholds first “spoofing” conviction (6:29) Top News: Beyonce, Richard Prince cases could be next big thing in fair use (9:03) Main Story: How to deal with mentally ill workers without ending up in court (9:17) Offbeat: Levar Burton’s IP woes over Reading Rainbow (6:36)

Monday, August 7, 2017

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Ep. 14: On Patents, Is One Judge Bucking The Supreme Court?

The rural Eastern District of Texas had become the hub of patent law in the United States, but then along came a Supreme Court ruling that threatened to change all that. Senior patent reporter Ryan Davis joins us to talk about one Texas judge that isn't exactly taking the ruling lying down. Also on this week’s show, the hosts discuss internet giants including Google and Facebook opposing a bill aimed at combating sex trafficking, an ex-King & Spalding associate suing the firm for allegedly firing him in retaliation for reporting ethical breaches, and the ACLU’s defense of John Oliver’s constitutional right to be mean on television.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:56) Top News: Google, Facebook oppose anti-sex trafficking bill (8:20) Top News: King & Spalding sued by attorney allegedly fired for reporting ethical breaches (4:25) Main Story: One Texas district court judge aims to keep the Supreme Court from destroying his patent law kingdom (10:55) Offbeat: Cheeky ACLU brief says “John Oliver was mean to you, Bob. So what?” (4:58)

Monday, July 31, 2017

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Ep. 13: Why Are All The Partners Men?

Are you looking around your firm and seeing a lot of men in leadership? This week Law360 released our latest Glass Ceiling Report, a look at the progress of women at law firms, and the findings are overall pretty bleak. Law360 In Depth reporter Natalie Rodriguez talks us through the report and what firms can do to advance gender equality. Also on this week’s show, the hosts discuss an eye-popping $150 million jury verdict against drugmaker Abbvie, a suit that saw the leak of information about 50,000 Wells Fargo customers, and the bizarre story of the U.S. Postal Service being sued over a fake Statue of Liberty.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:48) Top News: 50,000 Wells Fargo customers have data revealed during discovery (7:05) Top News: Abbvie Hit with complicated $150M verdict (5:45) Main Story: Law firms making only incremental progress on gender equality (10:17) Offbeat: So-called “sexy” Statue of Liberty is causing heartache for USPS (6:24)

Monday, July 24, 2017

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Ep. 12: All Eyes On Litigation Funding, Plus DMX’s Courthouse Rap

Hulk Hogan’s company-killing lawsuit against Gawker, largely funded by Silicon Valley billionaire Peter Thiel out of a grudge against the media company, cast a harsh light on the little-known world of third-party litigation funding. Andrew Strickler, senior legal ethics reporter, comes on the show to talk about why the attention from the case is making litigation funders nervous. Also on this week’s show, the hosts discuss Massachusetts’ highest court ruling that employers can be held liable for disability discrimination if they fire an employee for using medical marijuana, a Ninth Circuit ruling about whether a judge’s Twitter activity merits recusal, and the latest legal woes of rapper DMX.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:03) Top News: Massachusetts says employees can’t be fired for using medical marijuana (7:01) Top News: Ninth Circuit weighs in on whether a judge’s Twitter activity merits recusal (5:09) Legal Industry Minute: Law firm leaders say second half of 2017 looking bright, firms are moving away from non-equity role & Trump taps Ty Cobb to join legal team (1:26) Main Story: Gawker case puts all eyes on litigation funding (9:03) Offbeat: The latest legal woes of rapper DMX (6:03)

Monday, July 17, 2017

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Ep. 11: Lateral Vetting Woes, Plus Monkeying Around With Copyrights

When you hire a lateral attorney do you always know what you are getting? Most firms take steps like background checks, but that doesn’t mean they always find out if an attorney has engaged in improper, or even illegal, conduct. Senior white collar reporter Jody Godoy comes on the show to walk us through some of the problems BigLaw is facing as it looks to vet new hires. Also on this week’s show, the hosts discuss a contentious trial where Quincy Jones says he’s been stiffed on $30 million in royalties from the Michael Jackson estate, a federal regulation that could lead to more class actions against banks, and some monkey business over a jungle selfie.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:30) Top News: Quincy Jones & Michael Jackson royalties trial kicks off (5:30) Top News: Rule issued to make it easier to bring class actions against banks (4:42) Legal Industry Minute: Legal industry is on a job creation hot-streak, firms are on track to hit record number of mergers & BigLaw history of FBI nominee Wray (1:25) Main Story: Firms should beware of the pitfalls of lateral attorney vetting (9:36) Offbeat: A bananas 9th Circuit oral argument about a curious ape (7:14)

Monday, July 10, 2017

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Ep. 10: HIGH COURT SPECIAL - Law360 Talks With RBG, Plus A Term-End Recap

This week’s Pro Say is our Supreme Court special, with guests who join us to talk about exclusive interviews they’ve done with two of the court’s powerhouse women. Senior reporter Jackie Bell discusses her sit down with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and RBG’s views on diversity on the bench. Then, senior reporter Ed Beeson stops by to talk about his interview with Justice Sonia Sotomayor and what she sees as the power of dissents. Also on this weeks show, the hosts break down the workmanlike Supreme Court term and what it taught us about the kind of justice Neil Gorsuch is shaping up to be.

Full Show (Runtime: 32:00) SCOTUS Recap: Lessons from the term & what we know about Gorsuch so far (12:18) Main Story pt.1: Ginsburg’s view of the importance of a diverse High Court bench (9:12) Main Story pt. 2: Sotomayor’s take on the power of dissents (10:30)

Monday, July 3, 2017

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Ep. 9: Travel Ban At The High Court, Plus Everyone Hates Shkreli

The Supreme Court has agreed to weigh the constitutionality of President Trump’s immigration travel ban in a case that pits executive power in the name of national security against a policy some say was just a smokescreen for religious discrimination. Senior immigration reporter Allissa Wickham stops by to talk through the arguments on both sides and what will happen during this summer of limbo with a partial ban. We’ll also talk about the start of the long-awaited fraud trial of Martin Shkreli, the infamous “pharma bro” known for for jacking up the price of a crucial HIV drug by 5000 percent. Spoiler alert: potential jurors didn’t like him much. And we’ll check in on Gawker’s war with Silicon Valley titan Peter Thiel who funded the Hulk Hogan lawsuit that ultimately shuttered the company.

Full Show (Runtime: 27:00) Top News: Team for “Pharma Bro” Shkreli has a tough time finding unbiased jurors (6:57) Top News: Gawker gets OK to probe Thiel's dealings with a law firm behind case that doomed the company (3:47) Legal Industry Minute: DLA Piper grapples with a ransomware attack, more on firms facing equal pay litigation & Paul Hastings to pay $46.5 million in fiduciary breach suit (1:43) Main Story: High Court takes up contentious travel ban case (9:13) Offbeat: Dentons associate arrested for trying to extort partners at the firm (5:08)

Monday, June 26, 2017

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Ep. 8: The Tough Class Action Landscape, Plus Redskins Score Big

This week the Supreme Court ruled to limit where mass torts can be filed, just the latest decision that makes it hard to win class action lawsuits. Law360 In Depth reporter Sindhu Sundar comes on the show to walk us through the current state of the class action law and what steps firms are taking to thrive in a market that has undergone big changes. The Pro Say hosts discuss the high court handing the Washington Redskins a final victory in the decades-long battle over the team’s name and also share updates on gender bias litigation brought by partners against Chadbourne and Parke and Proskauer Rose.

Full Show (Runtime: 36:42) Top News: High Court OKs “offensive” trademarks like Redskins (11:37) Top News: The latest on BigLaw partners suing for gender discrimination (4:03) Legal Industry Minute: Anderson + Wanca sues ex-associate over trade secrets, public company GCs see higher paydays, & first openly LGBT judge nominated to NY high court (1:33) Main Story: MDLs are the new darling as firms adapt to the tough class action landscape (14:03) Offbeat: A legal fight over a big prize in a billfish tournament, hubris, and polygraph tests (5:22)

Monday, June 12, 2017

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Introducing Law360's Pro Say Podcast

Hosts Amber McKinney, Bill Donahue and Alex Lawson give a look at what to expect from Law360's weekly Pro Say podcast. Why did we start this thing? What kind of stories can you expect each week? Click play to find out. (Runtime: 2:03)

Monday, May 22, 2017

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Ep. 7: The Fallout From Ransomware, Plus Uber's IP Woes

The giant WannaCry ransomware attack rocked the globe last week, but that might be nothing compared to the legal aftershocks. Law360 senior privacy reporter Allison Grande joins the show to discuss the possible legal repercussions from the breach and what companies can do to make sure they aren’t impacted by the next one. The Pro Say hosts dive in to the newest developments in the self-driving car war between Google’s Waymo and Uber and discuss the latest law firm to be hit with a gender bias suit by a female partner.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:39) Top News: A ride through the self-driving car war between Google’s Waymo and Uber (7:48) Top News: The latest law firm to be hit with a gender bias suit by a female partner (5:04) Legal Industry Minute: California bar passage rate dips, higher percentage of law school grads have jobs, Seyfarth Shaw lays off 40 employees (1:16) Main Story: WannaCry ransomware attack has legal aftershocks (11:36) Offbeat: A lobster poacher on the hook for restitution to the South African government (3:54)

Monday, May 15, 2017

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Ep. 6: AIG's Bailout Battle, Plus Trump's Judges

While the 2008 financial crisis may have been nearly a decade ago, wrangling over federal bailouts is still making its way through the courts. Law360’s senior banking reporter Evan Weinberger comes on the show to walk us through a case challenging the constitutionality of the government takeover of insurance giant AIG and what it means for government power during a crisis. We also take a look at Donald Trump beginning to put his stamp on the federal judiciary with the nomination of 10 judges while 129 judicial vacancies remain. Then, we close the book on the long-running criminal case over the collapse of law firm Dewey & LeBoeuf with a look at the verdict, how the DA was more successful in the second trial, what jurors really thought, and just how hard it is to convict C-suite executives.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:02) Top News: Trump nominates 10 federal judges (6:46) Top News: The final chapter in the Dewey criminal saga (6:11) Legal Industry Minute: Legal jobs bouncing back, Allen & Overy’s new performance review system, and Reed Smith program for new parents (1:10) Main Story: AIG bailout constitutionality & implications for government crisis power (11:10) Offbeat: Lawsuit over Starbuck’s viral sensation, the unicorn frappucino (3:55)

Monday, May 8, 2017

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Ep. 5: Trouble Indemnity, Plus Fyre Festival Debacle

In a buyer’s market for BigLaw services, corporate clients are increasingly getting firms to shoulder the risk of unforeseen or unwelcome outcomes from legal work. These indemnity provisions can have a serious downside, as Law360 senior legal ethics reporter Andrew Strickler explains on today’s show. The Pro Say hosts talk about the legal fallout from the Fyre Festival, a private-island music festival that was billed by its organizers -- including Ja Rule -- as the “cultural experience of the decade,” but devolved into something at least one lawsuit has described as more like “The Lord of the Flies.”

Full Show (Runtime: 29:16) Top News: Fyre Festival crashes and burns and suits are rolling in (7:35) Top News: DOJ wins in court to block the $54B healthcare merger of Anthem and Cigna (4:40) Legal Industry Minute: Obama-era solicitor general rejoins Jenner & Block & law firm merger developments (1:25) Main Story: Indemnity provisions can put law firms on the hook for big risks (10:13) Offbeat: The Eagles sue alleged real-life Hotel California over TM use (5:22)

Monday, May 1, 2017

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Ep. 4: Bid Adieu To Dewey, Plus Trump's New Trade Weapon

A pair of guests - reporters Jody Godoy and Stewart Bishop - come on the show to share stories about their time in court covering the second criminal case related to the fall of law firm Dewey & LeBoeuf. We’ll also take a look at the implications of Trump’s trade moves and discuss a group of Lyft drivers who have hit Uber with a lawsuit over tracking software nicknamed “Hell.”

Full Show (Runtime: 26:39) Top News: Trump’s recent trade moves (5:28) Top News: Uber hit with lawsuit over tracking Lyft drivers with “Hell” software (5:05) Legal Industry Minute: Ranking of 1Q BigLaw lobbying, Fried Frank bonuses to administrative staff, & Kirkland snags ex-Obama counsel (1:35) Main Story: A look back at criminal cases related to the fall of Dewey & LeBoeuf (9:27) Offbeat: How much profanity can you post to Facebook before you lose labor law cover? (5:04)

Monday, April 24, 2017

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Ep. 3: A Firing At Chadbourne, Plus Michael Jackson's Taxes

On the heels of a gender discrimination suit lodged against Chadbourne & Parke LLP, firm members just voted out the partner who brought the suit. Vin Gurrieri, Law360 senior employment reporter, joins the show to talk about this latest development in a case that has put a spotlight on pay disparity in BigLaw. The hosts discuss a bombshell tax case involving Michael Jackson, hundreds of millions of dollars, lying on the witness stand, and . . . Whitney Houston. Also, we’ll look at a high court ruling with broad implications for litigation misconduct sanctions.

Full Show (Runtime: 29:25) Top News: Bombshell Michael Jackson tax case (6:27) Top News: Supreme Court tackles litigation misconduct sanctions (5:00) Legal Industry Minute: Associates stick with BigLaw & developments in investigation of the death of a NY appellate judge (2:03) Main Story: Pay disparity in BigLaw, the case of Chadbourne & Parke (10:58) Offbeat: Would-be lawyer who doctored his verdict slip (4:55)

Monday, April 17, 2017

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Ep. 2: United's Debacle, Plus Gorsuch's Big Cases

Everyone watched the video of a passenger being forcibly removed from an overbooked United Airlines flight. This week, we’re joined by senior transportation reporter Linda Chiem who talks us through the potential legal fallout. We’ll also tackle newly minted Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch’s start on the bench, with a look at two cases where his vote could be the deciding one.

Full Show (Runtime: 27:09) Top News: Cases where Justice Gorsuch may be the deciding vote (10:00) Legal Industry Minute: Death of first black woman on NY’s appellate bench, MBE pass rates, & Boies Schiller acquisition (1:42) Main Story: Potential legal fallout of United Airlines bloody passenger removal (9:43) Offbeat: BigLaw partner arrested after being on the lam for 20 years (5:43)

Monday, April 10, 2017

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Ep. 1: Hacking BigLaw, Plus Dan Aykroyd's Vodka

Do you think cyber attacks only happen to multinational corporations and government targets? Not so, says Law360 In Depth reporter Ed Beeson, who comes on the show to discuss how hackers are increasingly targeting BigLaw and what the industry can do to stay safe. The hosts also discuss comedy legend Dan Aykryod’s vodka company winning a trademark case over its skull-shaped bottles, and a landmark Seventh Circuit ruling about sexual orientation discrimination.

Full Show (Runtime 26:49) Top News: Dan Aykroyd’s vodka company TM win (4:37) Top News: Landmark 7th Circ. ruling about sexual orientation bias (5:30) Legal Industry Minute: Cost of joining the Trump administration, crumbling mergers & Chadbourne partner vote (1:56) Main Story: Hackers are targeting BigLaw, here’s how to stay safe (10:20) Offbeat: What NOT to do when filing your next legal brief (4:24)