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Pro Say is a weekly podcast from Law360, bringing you a quick recap of both the biggest stories and the hidden gems from the world of law. In each episode, hosts Amber McKinney, Bill Donahue and Alex Lawson are joined by expert guests to bring you inside the newsroom and break down the stories that had us talking.
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Saturday, July 20, 2019

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Ep. 112: Remembering John Paul Stevens

John Paul Stevens, a liberal icon who spent more than three decades as a justice on the U.S. Supreme Court, died Tuesday at the age of 99. On this week’s show, Supreme Court reporter Jimmy Hoover breaks down the life and legal legacy of the late justice. Also on this week’s show: A ruling upholding New York City’s ban on Uber ads; a novel foray into plaintiff-side work for BigLaw giant Kirkland & Ellis; and a judge’s social-media gag order against indicted political operative Roger Stone.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:41)

Saturday, July 13, 2019

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Ep. 111: High Court Pro Neal Katyal Talks Trends & Trump’s Census About-Face

The Supreme Court term is over, but what will we remember 10 years from now? On this week’s show we’re joined by former acting U.S. Solicitor General Neal Katyal who shares his take on the biggest trends, Trump finally abandoning his plan to add a citizenship question to the census two weeks after the high court ruled, and whether stare decisis is in trouble. Also this week we discuss the arrest and indictment of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein and touch down on a Ninth Circuit judge who isn’t afraid of Game of Thrones spoilers.

Full Show (Runtime: 40:08)

Saturday, June 29, 2019

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Ep. 110: Census, Gerrymandering, And Last Call At SCOTUS

The U.S. Supreme Court concluded its term in dramatic fashion on Thursday, issuing a pair of blockbuster opinions on the 2020 census and partisan gerrymandering that will have sweeping implications for American elections. On this week’s show we dive deep into each of those rulings, plus touch on a trio of others from the high court’s big final week, including two important decisions on federal regulations and another on profane trademarks and free speech.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:36)

Saturday, June 22, 2019

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Ep. 109: Alexander (Jones) And The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Week

In a series of events that’s bizarre even by his standards, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones this week accidentally turned over child pornography to people who are suing him for spreading lies about the Sandy Hook shooting, then claimed it had been planted by opposing counsel, and then issued a bounty on those lawyers. We’ll explain how that went over with a judge. Also on this week’s show, the first hotly anticipated Supreme Court ruling of the term; and an attorney who extorted millions by suing over internet porn.

Full Show (Runtime: 37:56)

Saturday, June 15, 2019

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Ep. 108: Stop Calling My Phone, Robot

If there’s one thing that everyone can agree on, it’s that robocalls are an abomination. Last month, Americans received roughly five billion of them -- about 1,700 per second -- and spam calls rank as the top complaint to the Federal Communication Commission. This week, telecom reporter Kelcee Griffis joins us to explain the problem and why it’s taken so long to fix. Also this week, an update on the "Varsity Blues" admission scandal; another round of copyright litigation for Led Zeppelin; and a musical update on New York City’s favorite personal injury lawyers, Cellino & Barnes.

Full Show (Runtime: 35:19)

Saturday, June 8, 2019

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Ep. 107: The Big SCOTUS Cases, Ranked

The Supreme Court is about to start a mad dash to the finish, issuing more than two dozen rulings over the next three weeks, including all of the biggest decisions of the term. This week, we count down the most important opinions to watch for, ranging from gerrymandering to free speech to the 2020 census. Also this week, a lawsuit filed by basketball superstar Kawhi Leonard against Nike during the middle of the NBA Finals and an Amish woman's legal battle to avoid having her photo taken.

Full Show (Runtime: 41:01)

Tuesday, June 4, 2019

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BONUS: How To Be A Great Lawyer

A few weeks ago we were lucky enough to chat with some of the legal luminaries honored at the 2019 Burton Awards, and we asked them to share some of the lessons they’ve learned that helped them excel. In this special bonus episode hear from Second Circuit Chief Judge Robert Katzmann, Oracle General Counsel Dorian Daley and the GC of 3M Ivan Fong on what it takes to be a great lawyer.

Bonus Runtime: 10:54

Friday, May 31, 2019

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Ep. 106: Will The Glass Ceiling Ever Break?

For years women have been looking around their law firms and seeing mostly men in leadership. When will things change? This week the show features an all-female panel to discuss Law360’s annual Glass Ceiling Report, which reveals a glacial pace for increased gender parity in the law. Also this week we talk to one prominent female attorney who managed to crack the glass ceiling.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:48)

Saturday, May 25, 2019

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Ep. 105: The Freewheelin’ John Roberts

Have you ever wondered what Chief Justice John Roberts thinks about amicus briefs? What about his penchant for including Bob Dylan lyrics in his opinions? This week the Pro Say team went to Washington, D.C. for the Burton Awards that recognize excellence in the law, and we share with you highlights of remarks from Roberts, along with interviews of Burton honorees including Second Circuit Chief Judge Robert Katzmann, Oracle General Counsel Dorian Daley and the GC of 3M Ivan Fong.

Full Show (Runtime: 40:56)

Saturday, May 18, 2019

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Ep. 104: Kavanaugh v. Gorsuch

President Trump’s two Supreme Court appointees have found themselves at odds in a surprising number of cases, most recently in a big ruling backing iPhone owners who want to sue Apple. Reporter Jimmy Hoover joins us this week to discuss both the Apple case and the rift between the court’s two newest justices. Also this week, a $2 billion cancer verdict against Monsanto; a judge who seems skeptical of President Trump’s bid to block Congressional subpoenas; and a feces-smeared check delivered to the Oklahoma Bar Association.

Full Show (Runtime: 35:35)

Saturday, May 11, 2019

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Ep. 103: Justice, Outsourced

A Manhattan federal judge is “deeply troubled” that prosecutors effectively outsourced a criminal probe of Deutsche Bank to BigLaw firm Paul Weiss, saying it could have triggered constitutional violations. Reporter Jody Godoy joins us this week to discuss a tricky situation for white collar law enforcement. Also on this week’s show, a hedge fund exec heads to jail after screaming at a prosecutor during his securities fraud trial; a new study aims to figure out why so many clerks are white; and 90s classic Court TV makes a modern-day comeback.

Full Show (Runtime: 30:53)

Saturday, May 4, 2019

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Ep. 102: A 'Barbaric' Recusal

A Miami federal judge issued an extraordinary recusal order this week, saying he couldn't preside over a case against UnitedHealthcare because he believes the company's refusal to pay for cancer treatments is “immoral and barbaric." Also on this week's show, we talk about an in-house attorney who's suing after being asked to serve cake because she is a woman; President Trump's lawsuit to block Congress from subpoenaing Deutsche Bank; and an Oregon man who's suing Burger King over a promise to give him free Whoppers for life.

Full Show (Runtime: 24:36)

Saturday, April 27, 2019

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Ep. 101: 'Because Of Sex'

The Supreme Court agreed this week to decide whether federal sex discrimination laws cover LGBTQ workers, setting the stage for the next landmark civil rights ruling. Vin Gurrieri, Law360's employment law reporter, joins us to explain the case. Also on this week's show, criminal charges against a judge who refused to let federal agents make a courthouse arrest; arguments in a big Supreme Court case over the 2020 census; and a legal dispute over whether someone was a stripper or a "drunk customer."

Full Show (Runtime: 28:00)

Saturday, April 20, 2019

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Ep. 100: Mueller Madness

Just like everyone else in the country, we’re talking this week about the Mueller report – about the intricacies of bringing an obstruction of justice charge, about the “crazy shit” Don McGahn says President Trump asked him to do, and about the dividing line between the political and legal dimensions of the story. Also on this week’s show, we break down the Supreme Court oral arguments over free speech, curse words and trademarks.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:02)

Saturday, April 13, 2019

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Ep. 99: Opaque, On Purpose

Jones Day, one of the most prestigious law firms in the world, prides itself on a secretive pay scale and powerful leadership. But now those structures are at the center of a new lawsuit that says the firm underpays women. Law360’s Brandon Lowrey joins the show this week to talk about Jones Day, its institutions, and the new accusations. Also this week, a new criminal case against a pharma company over a treatment for opioid addiction; accusations that Monsanto is sending geo-targeted digital ads at jurors; and Kim Kardashian, Esquire.

Full Show (Runtime: 34:25)

Saturday, April 6, 2019

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Ep. 98: Fear and Loathing At An Opioid Trial

In one of the first criminal cases brought against pharma execs over the opioid crisis, executives at a small drug company are standing trial on charges they fueled the epidemic by bribing doctors to prescribe fentanyl. Law360’s Chris Villani has been in the courtroom for all of it, so he joins us to break down the trial and preview the verdict. Also on this week’s show, the latest news in the “Varsity Blues” college admissions scandal; a bankruptcy case that’s yielded accusations of shady billing by a BigLaw giant; and a Texas judge who accidentally resigned from the bench.

Full Show (Runtime: 33:02)

Saturday, March 30, 2019

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Ep. 97: There's Corn Syrup In The Beer!

The Beer Wars moved from the barroom to the courtroom this week, as MillerCoors filed a false advertising lawsuit over Bud Light ads that say Miller Lite is made with corn syrup. Those ads might be technically true, but our own Bill Donahue walks us through why that might not matter. Also this week, two big developments in the legal fight over the opioid epidemic; an abrupt reversal from the Trump administration in a case over Obamacare; and rapper Cardi B aims to lock up her signature catchphrase.

Full Show (Runtime: 31:16)

Saturday, March 23, 2019

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Ep. 96: Caseload Crisis

Judicial vacancies are a problem, but a sheer lack of new judgeships is a deeper issue that’s stretching the federal judiciary to the breaking point. In overburdened courthouses across the country, cases languish, judges get burned out and attorneys avoid federal court altogether. Reporter Cara Bayles joins us this week to explain the problem and how we got here. Also this week, a brutal oral argument for states accusing President Trump of violating the so-called emoluments clause; and a wacky lawsuit against Twitter over Rep. Devin Nunes’ cow.

Full Show (Runtime: 36:27)

Saturday, March 16, 2019

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Ep. 95: Summa Cum Fraude

A major college admissions scandal unfolded this week as federal prosecutors charged dozens of people with participating in an elaborate scheme to help children of wealthy parents — including the co-chairman of a powerful BigLaw firm — get into elite universities. Senior white collar crime reporter Jody Godoy joins the show this week to explain the charges. We’ll also touch on a big ruling that allowed parents of Sandy Hook shooting victims sue a gunmaker, and a Department of Justice decision to roll back an anti-bribery rule that banned disappearing message services.

Full Show (Runtime: 32:25)

Saturday, March 9, 2019

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Ep. 94: As Arrests Rise, Is Court Too Risky For Immigrants?

Immigrants are facing a growing risk of arrest if they enter a courthouse, as federal officials are increasingly using courts as staging grounds for enforcement actions. On this week’s show, reporter RJ Vogt joins us to discuss the trend, including why officers say it’s necessary and why advocates say it’s a problem. Also this week, a California appeals court rebukes an attorney who referred a female judge as “succubistic”; a Mardi Gras dispute in New Orleans over “huge ass beers”; and a nod to famed legal movie “My Cousin Vinny” from D.C. Circuit Chief Judge Merrick Garland.

Full Show (Runtime: 28:18)